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Friday, November 30, 2007

St Andrews DayThe White Paper says: For Scotland to achieve full independence, the UK Parliament must cease to have competence to legislate for Scotland and the UK Government must cease to have competence in respect of executive action in Scotland. Correspondingly, the Scottish Parliament and Scottish Government would assume the full range of competence, duties and responsibilities accorded to sovereign states under international law.

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  • 601. Risk Allardice - Clackmannan

    Friday, May 9, 2008 22:52

    I think that Wendy who's recent conversion to supporting a referendum on independence is the strongest indication that Labour n Scotland is on the run and makng desperate attempts to undermine the legitimate debate on the constitutional future of Scotland. It is vital that when a referendum is offered to the people of Scotland that they understand what choices they have The right to self government or being ruled by a self serving Westmnster government who have never served the interests of Scotland or it's people. We are a small country but we are a country that has agreat wealth of natural resources and are an innovative and confident people who with the will can and will become an independent nation that we can all be a proud of.
    I have to pont out that I have always believed the Scotland can be a successful independent nation and I have never been a member of the SNP

  • 602. Mike King - Birmingham

    Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:07

    581. PMK - Ayrshire
    Friday, May 2, 2008 13:49

    Re: “Patriotism" also maybe implies more state-nationalism (of the status-quo); whereas "nationalism" by itself I think of more as either against the current situation, or neutral.

    In any case, the language used is always so important in framing any debate. Its interesting that we hold such differing views on two crucial terms”

    I think the difference is one of perspective; using your definitions, I wish to preserve my nation (GB) whereas you wish to un-do the current position & create one more to your liking (a Scotland out of the Union)

    I agree that the language used is very important in framing debates but unsaid assumptions/prejudices are important too.

    I’ve tried to avoid getting involved in the ‘Empire row’ that often surfaces here but I guess, in truth, how one feels about GB IS influenced by how one feels about the Empire.

    Simplistically, my feelings are you Scots were with us English when (together) we founded the Americas, you were with us when we built the BRITISH Raj & fought alongside us in countless colonial not to mention two World Wars.

    I think part at least of my wanting GB to remain is based on not wishing to loose our past (shared) experiences.

    I wonder how much how one feels about the Empire influences how one feels about belonging to GB?

  • 603. Thomas Porter - Scotland, Aberdeen

    Saturday, May 10, 2008 13:26

    598. Andrew Auchterlonie - Kirkcaldy

    That is exactly how I feel.

    The SNP have argued that in some ways we are being short-changed.

    I've seen their case and I admitt that they are right.

    If we were Under Labour would Labour of been open about what exactly Scotland has lost out on?

    Money being diverted to the London Olympics for example.

  • 604. niallmannie - montrose - scotland

    Sunday, May 11, 2008 18:19

    the political commentator - brian taylor - seems to be extremely unbiased, compared to the others such as glenn campbell, ian mcwhirter, ian martin & so on all seem to me to be strong unionists & i don't think that they send out a fair message.
    is the media british controlled?
    why are the same stupid questions being asked by jo public - could scotland go it alone?
    scotland would thrive as never before - the wealth that is sucked out of this country every year by the british means that they can't afford to loose us!
    putting the economics aside - we should have full independance as the present situation is not a union but a province.
    we are a different people from them & we are being used by them.

  • 605. James Gibson - Dreghorn, Irvine

    Tuesday, May 13, 2008 21:13

    I am all for independance for Scotland, BUT, I don't see the point of becoming independant from the UK only to become part of what is effectively the USE (United States Of Europe). I am sick to death of the infernal EU dictating to us how to live our lives and what laws we should make. As far as I'm concrened the sooner the EU ceases to be and lets each individual country rule themselves the better.

  • 606. Thomas Porter - Scotland, Aberdeen

    Wednesday, May 14, 2008 14:31

    606. James Gibson - Dreghorn, Irvine

    An Independent Scotland can stand up for Scotland in The European Union.

    ;-)

  • 607. James Gibson - Dreghorn, Irvine

    Wednesday, May 14, 2008 18:07

    607. Thomas Porter - Scotland, Aberdeen

    Thomas I thank you for your comment. I'm sure an independant Scotland would stand up in the EU but what I want to know is, how effectively? How much power would be handed over to the EU or indeed taken back? Would an independant Scotland automatically become part of the EU? Would we use the Euro as our currency? I get really sick and tired of the EU imposing laws on Scotland / the UK when we should really be making our own laws. For instance, being forced to buy fruit and vegetables in kilos rather than pounds, my works vans having their speed reduced from 60mph to 56mph, forcing Royal Mail (the company I work for) to open up to competition from various companies from within the UK and from the rest of the EU but preventing Royal Mail from operating in other member states. I could go on and on! Some of the laws dictated to us I totally agree with but why not let us make our own laws?

  • 608. J Brady - Glasgow

    Friday, May 16, 2008 22:46

    An independent republic taking its place at the teable in Europe.

    A nation built on the idea of a democratic civic society that repudiates any built on ethnicity. Culture being seen as something not exclusive abnd dynamic

    We are alomost there.

    Responsibility and possibilty!

  • 609. gavin thompson - Dunfermline

    Saturday, May 17, 2008 18:19

    Reply to 554: John Tennant

    Hello John - I note that you can see no benefit for Scotland in obtaining independence - just cost. Apparently being part of the UK is cost free then is it ?

    Curious that you appear to be unaware of the vast oil revenue surplus paid by Scotland to the UK currently.

    Does the UK have some unique accounting abilities that Scotland doesn't? Your argument only makes sense if you believe that your fellow Scots are truly incompetent financially - not fit to run a sweetie shop, never mind their own government.

    Fine you are welcome to your opinion. Funny though, when Scots become part of the UK government, they are then apparently supremely capable of running the UK economy - messrs Brown and Darling etc? Does 'being British' suddenly boost their skills or confidence or something?

    Thankfully an increasing number of Scots want full independence - perhaps a majority, judging by the latest opinion polls.

    I can only surmise that they have a little more national self-belief and self-respect than you appear to have.

    Arabest


  • 610. trevor swistchew - edinburgh

    Saturday, May 17, 2008 18:54

    Independence is th future of Scotland
    Labour and Conservative created the demand for theyu were not listening to what people in the nation were and are saying
    Scotland can afford Independence for the simple reason that currently vast sums are put into projects planned without public approval money which would be channelled into peoples priorities and opened to the people in Scotland to back.Unionists had every opportunity to prove their policies and did not.
    When did Labour ever open na forum to the people of the nation ?

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