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National Conversation with Scotland's Institutions

Wednesday, March 26, 2008

First Minister Alex Salmond

As First Minister of Scotland, it is my responsibility to lead discussion and debate on how we can build a more successful Scotland.

This Government believes that independence for Scotland - where we are equal partners with the other nations of these islands - offers the best prospects for growing prosperity in our nation.

I have already said as First Minister that I am happy to test support for enhanced devolution in a referendum, along with Independence.

And I say to those who oppose the restoration of Scottish independence that just as I respect absolutely their right to hold that view, so in return I feel able to require of them a clear alternative which can be put on a ballot paper and held up to public scrutiny.

I say that not as a nationalist, but as a democrat.

The people are sovereign. The Scottish Parliament is their Parliament. The right to choose the future for this country, is their right.

This second phase of the National Conversation is focused on extensive engagement with Scotland's civic institutions who have developed and preserved our society for over 300 years. We have the chance to shape the future of the nation - and it is important that civic Scotland plays a central role.

On a simple level, the institutions - charities, churches, universities, business and the unions - are the main voice of Scottish society. Their members help to shape the opinions that impact across the wider public.

Institutions act as an important interlocutor between the government and the citizen. In a fundamental sense they are Scottish society - and have been so for many centuries.

This is a debate where Scotland's civic institutions can and must play a vital role - in defining the choices and the challenge that we face as a society.

We must take full responsibility for shaping our own future - the future of Scotland. So consider the aspects of Scottish life which could be made better. Be confident in asserting your vision.

To our churches and our faith groups I say, if you care passionately about a humanitarian global role for Scotland, if you care strongly about increasing foreign aid, if you object deeply to the presence of nuclear weapons - then tell us, and tell the people of Scotland.

To our voluntary organisations I say, if you are paying the cost of lottery funding being diverted to London - then speak out. Tell us the progress you wish to see.

And our universities and colleges, seeking more funding but constrained by Scotland's funding structure. The same fiscal straitjacket which constrains Scotland's government - and which constrains our choices as a society.

And our business organisations who want to enhance the competitive advantage of the Scottish economy and recognise that is the root to prosperity, then we should consider the new wealth - the new resources - that Scotland could generate with greater control of our own economy.

To our trade unions, we have to consider what social partnerships are required to create not just a rich country but a rich society.

As we have seen throughout our history, often the biggest steps forward, the most significant progress requires the greatest courage and indeed, often, some plain speaking.

The Scottish Government wants to hear from you about your priorities and ambitions.

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  • 51. Russell - Edinburgh

    Monday, March 31, 2008 15:33

    I would challenge the first minister to state how he expects to maintain employment in Scotland, when currently 25% of our workforce is employed in the Public Sector (compared with 20% for the UK), not to mention the disproportionate location of armed forces personel.

    Scotland is the sick man of Europe, with a shocking per capita spend on health which is currently subsidised by the UK as a whole. Could we realistically bear this cost ourselves ?

    We constantly look to the Irish economy to justify the case for independence. Ireland is very different to Scotland. They have a much lower reliance on public sector employment, as they do not have the public facilities which are taken for granted in the UK; would the people of Scotland be happy with being charged at point of use for GP services ?

    Ireland does not have an armed forces to speak of, and this is a major employment sector in Scotland; could we afford our own army/navy/airforce ? The Irish economy is heavily based on development, and this is propped by a lax planning system which we do not have in Scotland. The Irish example is not one which should be used to put forward a long term sustainable answer.

    We are already beginning to see cracks in the SNP's ability to deliver financially, and this is particulartly evident in the Council Tax freeze.
    The people of Scotland should be very aware of where Scotland lies in the European food chain. Pride does not provide jobs and financial security, we need to face up to the fact that we would suffer massively by breaking from the UK. The Scottish economy is heavily propped from Edinburgh, and mainly from the large financial institutions who reside there. Would they stay in an independant Scotland with an uncertain financial climate ?

    I have lived in Scotland all my life, and i feel 100% Scottish and proud to be so. The United Kingdom is unique, and a benefit to all component countries. I do not think that the people of Scotland require independence to validate their Scottishness.

    It is strange that the main supporters of independence reside in the northern nowheres of the country, where ignorance of how scotland is financed is bliss, and perhaps a local income tax would provide benefit to a few traditional families. It is also strange that if you examine the education level as a factor of SNP voters, it is found that the most educated in society would rather cut off their own arm and eat it than vote for the SNP.

    If there is to be a national conversation, then it needs to be very simple to encourage voters to participate. An independent Scotland; yes or no, and it really is that simple. The SNP are reluctant to have a vote such as this, as they are fully aware of what the result would be. I would ask the first minister to stand up and be counted, and not hide behind jargon and political wording, just ask us the simple and unabided question and get on with it.

  • 52. Thomas Porter - Scotland, Aberdeen

    Monday, March 31, 2008 16:39

    43. Charles Barry - Manchester

    Even though you agree of my view of Independence I will stress a few points that you made that are wrong.

    There is no such thing as an English Parliment. There is a British Parliment where Scots, Irish and Welsh including English MP's can discuss Britain and her future.

    England does not have their own Parliment where they can voice their own concerns about England and England only.

    Scots are also British Tax payers. The facts show that the money given to Scotland usually is what Scots pay in tax anyway and more then half the time the money Scotland gets is exactly less then what we should really get.

    This would mean that there would be no ease on taxes because the money would go straight to Scotland and not the British Treasury.

    And again I will stress that you have said "We can also see the end of Scottish MPs having a say in British affairs." Scotland is still apart of Britain and therefore the Scot MP's (Those who work in West Minister and not the Scots Parliment) still have a right to respresent their area and have a say on British Politics.

    Your political side is a bit jumbled but never mind we do understand what you are on about. ;)

  • 53. Steven - West Lothian

    Monday, March 31, 2008 22:57

    I would just like to respond to all those people including Des Browne who seem to think that somehow the last election was actually a vote on Independence.

    This is actually not the case - I am sure that most of you will remember the shameful, extreme and offensive bais that the majority of Red top papers displayed against the SNP in an attempt to frighten voters from voting SNP. Not to mention highlighting Labour / SNP marginal seats, to try and prevent an SNP victory. - Not that it did them any good.

    To try and suggest that that election was a fair vote on Independece is not only wrong on so many levels, but shows a lack of thought and understanding of basic politics.

  • 54. Queen D - Glasgow

    Tuesday, April 1, 2008 12:20

    I am not afraid of independence.
    I look forward to the day when Scotland looks after her own.
    I look forward to the day Scotland takes her seat in the UN.
    I am tired of Westminster.
    I am tired of a media which promotes Westminster.
    Prior to the may elections , I was more than astonished at the attacks on the SNP.I do not vote for newspaper or TV journalists I vote for parties.
    As it was , I did not vote for my usual choice but for the SNP , since I considered that my country has been treated badly by all parties at Westminster , albeit they have Scottish in their title.
    There is more at stake than just economics, there is pride and hope for a better country for all her subjects.
    So far, so good!
    I feel the confidence growing in me ,that we will be independent before I die.
    I want rid of Trident on my back door.
    I want our Troops out of Iraq , where I don't believe they should ever have been.
    C'mon Scotland!

  • 55. steven - inverness

    Tuesday, April 1, 2008 13:29

    51. Russell - southern somewhere.

    Perhaps rather than simple scare mongering, Russell might care to posit on the likelihood of the large financial institutions leaving Scotland in the face of an uncertain financial climate. It is all too easy to ask throw away questions in such a debate as this. My question would be has any CEO of any financial institution, indicated at any level an intention to leave Scotland in the event of it’s independence?

  • 56. Michael Creechan - Glasgow

    Tuesday, April 1, 2008 15:39

    I voted SNP for the first time at the 2007 Election purely on the expectation of a Referendum on Independence, a subject on which I have no fixed view,pending fuller information which would have been elicited during a referendum campaign.
    While I have been reasonably happy with the Government since the election, I am rather perturbed that the Party adopts Party attitudes on purely moral matters which should be left entirely to the consciences of individual MSPs,with no Party stance being adopted.

    The Unionist parties obviously think the Scottish People are too thick to make up their minds on Independence, so I won't be voting for any of them at the next Election.

  • 57. Ian Burnett - Glasgow

    Tuesday, April 1, 2008 23:57

    Taken from the ministers’ statement above -“To our voluntary organisations I say, if you are paying the cost of lottery funding being diverted to London - then speak out. Tell us the progress you wish to see.”
    Having posted comments on the blogs of Nicola Sturgeon, John Swinney AND one of Alex Salmonds’ other blogs about this very area gives me the answer to my question, which I posed in one of them, that being ‘Do the ministers actually read these posts?’ Answer NO.
    Most of the organisations that I am involved with, or have dealings with, have all tried in vain to access Lottery funding to no avail, whether that is due to funds being diverted to London I could not say, and nobody at the Lottery office would dare admit such a thing. It would appear that you are aware that Lottery funding or should I say the lack of, is causing problems for many organisations but I have to say that the Scottish Gov do not appear to be aware of their real plight, and that is many redundancies are taking place in groups / organisations who have an excellent track record in providing much needed services to the people living in our communities with problems covering Health issues, alcohol/drug addiction and their effects on partners, family and friends, and the ever increasing problems surrounding indebtedness, solely through lack of funding support.
    To give you another example of another organisation needing support is one working again within the community providing PCs to nominated people/families, IT training, volunteering opportunities, IT support to other community groups. This has been running for the last 3 years and has a wealth of statistics proving how successful it has been and would receive 10 out 10 from all its users. Where’s the support it justly deserves, kicked into touch twice by the lottery, goodness knows why, now having to consider applying for small amounts of funding from various bodies to try and arrive at the total needed to keep going. Where’s the security for the 1&1/2 staff members who run this project, how do you plan your life not knowing if you have a job from one years end to another. Will this be another casualty come September this year when their funding has ceased?
    I ask again is anyone listening or is this just a PR exercise!
    Let’s see some action before its too late.



  • 58. Dave Eastabrook - Largs, Ayrshire

    Wednesday, April 2, 2008 14:06

    57. Ian Burnett - Glasgow

    The originators of these blogs should at least acknowledge, in a posting, that they read all postings and take note.

    They don't have to join in, I can understand the difficulty or danger of that, though having said that I really think it would show open people-oriented government if they did join in, talking to us peasants - rather than just talking amongst themselves. Even if it was just to ask questions of individual posters - like you, who has a strong case for being listened to.

    It takes two to have a conversation.

  • 59. John - Perth

    Thursday, April 3, 2008 12:18

    There are points for & against the independance of Scotland, however would it not be more prudent to get the Scottish Government more devolved powers and head towards independance through a staged process. I have also read that we as Scots have an integral part within the UK then how is this possible when we still have basic arguments with English on the acceptence of our Scottish Banknotes as they do accept them as currency or question them as sterling. Mr Brown wants us as part of the UK but not to interfeer with English dominance. Role on being a seperate independant Scotland.

  • 60. KM Grace - Glasgow

    Thursday, April 3, 2008 13:26

    49 - Lindsay - Scots also spend lots of time blaming Westminster for they're woes. An independant Scotland would no longer have this excuse for not addressing the issues mentioned. And I've no doubt we could do it, given time. 57 - Ian Burnett - I work in charity funding. Sucessful projects usualy have strong partnerships and realistic exit strategies. Why not work with other orgs to make bigger projects, rather than compete with each other for a shrinking pot of funds?. Also, there's no gaurantee that the Lottery would even exist in an independent Scotland (Any comments Alex,John or Nicola??). Either way, please, please, please can we have the vote now? It's getting really really boring. Are we there yet???

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