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National Conversation with Scotland's Institutions

Wednesday, March 26, 2008

First Minister Alex Salmond

As First Minister of Scotland, it is my responsibility to lead discussion and debate on how we can build a more successful Scotland.

This Government believes that independence for Scotland - where we are equal partners with the other nations of these islands - offers the best prospects for growing prosperity in our nation.

I have already said as First Minister that I am happy to test support for enhanced devolution in a referendum, along with Independence.

And I say to those who oppose the restoration of Scottish independence that just as I respect absolutely their right to hold that view, so in return I feel able to require of them a clear alternative which can be put on a ballot paper and held up to public scrutiny.

I say that not as a nationalist, but as a democrat.

The people are sovereign. The Scottish Parliament is their Parliament. The right to choose the future for this country, is their right.

This second phase of the National Conversation is focused on extensive engagement with Scotland's civic institutions who have developed and preserved our society for over 300 years. We have the chance to shape the future of the nation - and it is important that civic Scotland plays a central role.

On a simple level, the institutions - charities, churches, universities, business and the unions - are the main voice of Scottish society. Their members help to shape the opinions that impact across the wider public.

Institutions act as an important interlocutor between the government and the citizen. In a fundamental sense they are Scottish society - and have been so for many centuries.

This is a debate where Scotland's civic institutions can and must play a vital role - in defining the choices and the challenge that we face as a society.

We must take full responsibility for shaping our own future - the future of Scotland. So consider the aspects of Scottish life which could be made better. Be confident in asserting your vision.

To our churches and our faith groups I say, if you care passionately about a humanitarian global role for Scotland, if you care strongly about increasing foreign aid, if you object deeply to the presence of nuclear weapons - then tell us, and tell the people of Scotland.

To our voluntary organisations I say, if you are paying the cost of lottery funding being diverted to London - then speak out. Tell us the progress you wish to see.

And our universities and colleges, seeking more funding but constrained by Scotland's funding structure. The same fiscal straitjacket which constrains Scotland's government - and which constrains our choices as a society.

And our business organisations who want to enhance the competitive advantage of the Scottish economy and recognise that is the root to prosperity, then we should consider the new wealth - the new resources - that Scotland could generate with greater control of our own economy.

To our trade unions, we have to consider what social partnerships are required to create not just a rich country but a rich society.

As we have seen throughout our history, often the biggest steps forward, the most significant progress requires the greatest courage and indeed, often, some plain speaking.

The Scottish Government wants to hear from you about your priorities and ambitions.

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  • 11. alex macdonald - london

    Thursday, March 27, 2008 03:58

    i would realy like to see scotland offer our people who have left scotland something to bring them back because their is a wealth of talent that could be tapped into if alex could offer some incentive to bring us back .as we love SCOTLAND so very much and would love to come back

  • 12. jim - St Andrews

    Thursday, March 27, 2008 09:47

    As a unionist, I will take up your challenge Mr Salmond.

    Do you wish Scotland to leave the UK (yes or No)

    Simple, clear.
    If there is plurality with yes, then there must a second set of questions put to referendum

    Which of the following International organisations which limit Scottish sovereignty do you wish join
    The European Union (yes or no)
    NATO (yes or no)
    The United Nations (yes or no)
    The International Criminal Court (yes or no)
    The European Court of Human rights (yes or no)


    These organisations all limit Scottish sovereignty substantially. No one ever asked the Scottish people their views on them, I too am a democrat. I want the choice on each and every one of them. Surely you can promise this?

  • 13. R Gosling - Aberdeenshire

    Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:18

    I support the plan for a referendum - I can't understand the fear the unionist parties have since I suspect those who support full independance are still in the minority. Either way, a referendum is the best way to decide, and the Single Transferable Vote seems a reasonable (and only likely) way to achieve majority support for one option. With a referendum held, the issue would be resolved and everyone (including the SNP) would have to promise to shut up about it for at least 50 years.

    BUT, I have one problem - the proposed referendum only goes one way. We'd have the choice of staying still, or becoming more independant. Any referendum should give us the full choice, and that means that removing the Scottish Parliament and reverting power back to the British government should be an option.

  • 14. MK - Glasgow

    Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:26

    The impact of having hard working, top quality Ministers in place under the SNP is already changing attitudes within Scotland - waking people up to the fact that when we are led properly at Scottish level, we can achieve so much more. In the past, too much has been constrained by Westminster. At a European level, the EC already believes that Scotland will be independent - it is merely a matter of time - and not only would they welcome it, they are already preparing themselves for it.
    We need to prepare robust information about other similar EU countries - Ireland would be a good example; so would the Baltics as new EU members. We need to emphasise the benefits and highlight the differences between a Scotland that would embrace Europe and a UK that is euro sceptic and tries to deny the value of the EU.

  • 15. David Robertson - Inverness

    Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:52

    There is another aspect of this "independence" question worth considering; the social context in which any referendum may be held.

    The GDP of the UK as a whole comprises about 2% agriculture, 18% manufacturing and 80% services of which fully 33% is financial services. During the almost eleven years of the Labour government this latter sector has been the locomotive of UK GDP growth. While manufacturing is benefiting at the moment from the weak pound, the financial sector is hit very badly by the same phenomenon. In addition to this, since mid-2007 the global banking industry has suffered a massive heart attack and this is buffeting the City of London just as much as other financial centres around the world. Central bankers are pouring copious transfusions of credit into the corpse but to little good effect. The result of this mayhem is, and will continue to be, an enormous drag on the UK economy which, in spite of official protestations to the contrary, is already in recession in the "real economy".

    My question is, what effect will the inevitable economic collapse have on any decision to move Scotland towards independence? By 2010 it is a virtual certainty that the entire country will be mired in dreadful economic conditions that most of the people have never experienced, nor are they equipped to cope with them. How willing, in those conditions, will the UK government be, to discuss transference of ownership of the North Sea oil fields to the Scottish people? Not very,in my opinion, given that this may well be one of the very few sectors of the UK economy generating decent tax revenues at that time.

    On the other hand, although worsening economic conditions would usually weigh in favour of the people opting for the status quo, it may be that they will see greater security in being set free from the sinking UK ship and casting in their lot with the EU. No doubt since Mr. Salmond is an economist, he has given some thought to these possibilities and has prepared a convincing argument in support of throwing Scotland wholly into the embrace of the European alliance.

    Personally I believe there is an even stronger argument in favour of going in the opposite direction, towards complete legislative, fiscal and monetary independence; however, the likelihood of ambitious politicians and bureaucrats abandoning the possibility of a cushy posting, an inviting career path,and all expenses paid travel on EU junkets, is vanishingly minuscule.

  • 16. David - Falkirk

    Thursday, March 27, 2008 13:36

    The idea of an Independent Scotland fills me with dread. Whilst I believe that the devolved parliament is a good idea with local(Scottish) issues being decided locally and not in London, I believe there is no need for the separatist state to be created. The arguments for Oil revenue and now the other tax “ National Lottery “ are being mentioned. So now we are to make sure that if we put our pound on the Lotto it only gets spent in Scotland. Arts and other people sponsored by the Lotto are for everyone. One big pot! Where is the funding for the Commonwealth Games coming from?
    The SNP administration continues to argue the case for all these monies for which they have no legitimate claim. They have no answers to where the money is coming from. They dodge every question put to them. Answer some questions! Address some issues! Lastly the issue of “President Salmond”- quite frankly a man who is creaming off the top! He likes to parade around having his photo taken in all the right places with all the right people…. He lacks substance. I am not a fan and if the electorate were to be conned into believing that this joker can deliver the goods I for one will be off to live with my fellow Britishers in England.

  • 17. Ross Evans - Cardiff, Wales

    Thursday, March 27, 2008 13:38

    Would you really risk destroying the Union and creating another "Northern Ireland" within Scotland just to get that chip off your shoulder Alex? The migration of people within the UK has been so great over the Centauries that I feel as much a part of Wales as I do of Scotland, Northern Ireland or England - or to put it short British - What exactly are you hoping to achieve? What is it going to bring you other than isolation and resentment? United we stand Alex, United we stand!

  • 18. Mr O'Donnell - Dublin

    Thursday, March 27, 2008 14:12

    Following on from Alex MacDonals statement - As a 30-something Glaswegian living in Dublin, I have always said that if Scotland could regain its hard earned independence, I would move home in a heart-beat. As it stands I just cannot bring myself to live out my days in a subserviant Scotland which has lost its pride, a Scotland that feels it has no right to expect better, and worse still - a Scotland that seems to believe that it has always been poor!

    Someone commented on whisky being our only export - in response can I just point out that it wasn't always the case and that's exactly why we should be independent. As a nation we are pretty much devoid of aspiration and socially seem to be suffering from uselessitis.

    The real crux of the issue here, in my opinion, is that the nation would more than likely vote FOR independence if society actually snapped out of its malaise and realised that things haven't always been as they are. When are people going to realise that Scotland is NOT better off in the Union and hasnt BEEN better off for a hundred or so years? It does no good to blame Labour, Lib Dem or even Tory - the main culprit is being tied into a 300 year old contract which does NOT serve us as it should. Scotland used to be wealthy, and world leaders in education & industry but that has been slowly 'centralised' and degraded. Don't we have the resources or the skills anymore?

    Of course we do, and we always did... the problem is people in Scotland don't seem to realise it and don't feel they have the right to demand better.

    If a country like Ireland can manage an economic boom on little more than 4 million residents, then I am certain Scotland could do the same, and do it better. We have the infrastructure that Ireland still lacks, we have the skilled workforce, we still HAVE segments of old industry like the Clyde etc... why shouldn't it be up to us to better develop our own nation? Why shouldn't we question the act of the Union?

    Seriously though - if the Unionists best possible argument for NOT questioning the Union is "if it isn't broken, don't fix it", - we are already half way there! It IS broken and always was...

    A democracy demands the right of the individual to choose and to oppose is nothing short of communism on the part of the opposition, more closely resembling mob-rule...

    Thanks to the SNP for battling for these rights regardless of the oppositions slurs.

  • 19. Deaf Ears? - Fife

    Thursday, March 27, 2008 14:35

    #5 Niall

    Looks like you suffer from the same problem as this site, namely most contributors belong to the SNP!!

    Funny how most of the people I speak to complain about Fife being the most expensive deliverer of care in Scotland under the SNP / LIB-Dems, where it used to be the cheapest under Labour. No doubt the SNP councillor who promised to fight the sale of common land for housing, then voted FOR it in committee helped with the disillusion felt by many. Of course he maintained he would STILL support the resistance to the project after voting for it. Mr Swinney and Mr Salmond, who ran to the rescue of Trumpton and Mr McDonald were conspicuous by their absent support for LOCAL democracy.

    Coupled with their denial of promising to clear student debt and inability to protect the Scottish public,among others, I look forward to their demise.

  • 20. Alasdair - Stirling

    Thursday, March 27, 2008 16:44

    75% of the population do not want independence. I am one of them. Few things make me want to get involved in politics but having my country - the United Kingdom - destroyed by a minority 'government' is something that just cannot be ignored.
    I am disgusted at the 'Unionist' parties for indulging the SNP and letting them form their 'government' despite the fact that most of us are hostile to the goals of the SNP. I am even more disgusted that in creating a devolved parliament Labour have given the SNP a golden opportunity to play their dangerous games. And finally as a British Scot I am outraged that 5 years of opportunities to make a real difference are being wasted by allowing the SNP to waste tax-payers money picking pointless fights with Westminster on issues that are frankly embarassing to any adult with an ounce of intelligence.
    The sooner we are rid of the SNP the better.

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